1 00:00:09,430 --> 00:00:06,150 [Music] 2 00:00:11,430 --> 00:00:09,440 welcome to the afternoon session well 3 00:00:13,830 --> 00:00:11,440 afternoon where i am welcome to the 4 00:00:16,470 --> 00:00:13,840 session that we have darius is going to 5 00:00:18,710 --> 00:00:16,480 be uh it's more early in the morning for 6 00:00:20,550 --> 00:00:18,720 darius so uh it'll be a slightly 7 00:00:22,390 --> 00:00:20,560 different time frame for him but we're 8 00:00:23,670 --> 00:00:22,400 welcome we're happy to have you here 9 00:00:26,390 --> 00:00:23,680 with us today 10 00:00:28,630 --> 00:00:26,400 uh we have a presentation now from 11 00:00:30,870 --> 00:00:28,640 darius hober it's going to go on for 12 00:00:32,709 --> 00:00:30,880 about 40 minutes or so and then we'll 13 00:00:34,310 --> 00:00:32,719 have q and a afterwards and then we'll 14 00:00:36,470 --> 00:00:34,320 take a further break afterwards but 15 00:00:37,270 --> 00:00:36,480 we'll get back to that later 16 00:00:39,270 --> 00:00:37,280 um 17 00:00:41,750 --> 00:00:39,280 we're really happy to have you here 18 00:00:42,630 --> 00:00:41,760 thanks for being here darius 19 00:00:45,430 --> 00:00:42,640 okay 20 00:00:46,310 --> 00:00:45,440 thank you john um everybody thank you 21 00:00:48,389 --> 00:00:46,320 for 22 00:00:50,069 --> 00:00:48,399 taking the time out to listen to me it's 23 00:00:53,350 --> 00:00:50,079 nice to be able to 24 00:00:54,950 --> 00:00:53,360 share ideas and get feedback on things 25 00:00:57,430 --> 00:00:54,960 that we're working on 26 00:00:58,470 --> 00:00:57,440 um 27 00:01:00,310 --> 00:00:58,480 okay my 28 00:01:02,549 --> 00:01:00,320 my talk is on 29 00:01:05,509 --> 00:01:02,559 cellular cosmology and the effect of the 30 00:01:07,830 --> 00:01:05,519 human hollow genome on consciousness 31 00:01:11,190 --> 00:01:07,840 and it sounds like a lot but once i get 32 00:01:12,710 --> 00:01:11,200 into it you'll see how it all fits okay 33 00:01:14,630 --> 00:01:12,720 um 34 00:01:16,710 --> 00:01:14,640 the reason i start out with cellular 35 00:01:18,789 --> 00:01:16,720 cosmology is 36 00:01:21,190 --> 00:01:18,799 we need a metaphor 37 00:01:23,429 --> 00:01:21,200 to be able to talk about things 38 00:01:25,429 --> 00:01:23,439 reductionist science 39 00:01:26,789 --> 00:01:25,439 doesn't allow this 40 00:01:28,789 --> 00:01:26,799 because 41 00:01:30,469 --> 00:01:28,799 we can't keep 42 00:01:31,270 --> 00:01:30,479 reducing things 43 00:01:33,429 --> 00:01:31,280 and 44 00:01:35,190 --> 00:01:33,439 separating things 45 00:01:37,270 --> 00:01:35,200 nothing really is separate in an 46 00:01:41,429 --> 00:01:37,280 energetic reality 47 00:01:44,310 --> 00:01:41,439 so cellular cosmology is the idea of 48 00:01:46,389 --> 00:01:44,320 taking the concept of a cell 49 00:01:48,230 --> 00:01:46,399 an area comprising of zones with 50 00:01:51,270 --> 00:01:48,240 specialized purposes 51 00:01:53,590 --> 00:01:51,280 surrounded by a semi-permeable membrane 52 00:01:55,749 --> 00:01:53,600 and using that as a metaphor 53 00:01:57,670 --> 00:01:55,759 to be able to look at reality 54 00:01:58,900 --> 00:01:57,680 and it allows us to have 55 00:02:00,149 --> 00:01:58,910 system integration 56 00:02:02,630 --> 00:02:00,159 [Music] 57 00:02:05,830 --> 00:02:02,640 because essentially everything is 58 00:02:09,029 --> 00:02:05,840 systems within systems within system 59 00:02:11,029 --> 00:02:09,039 and i think that has a lot to do with 60 00:02:12,670 --> 00:02:11,039 our explanation of 61 00:02:14,470 --> 00:02:12,680 uh 62 00:02:16,869 --> 00:02:14,480 parapsychology 63 00:02:19,110 --> 00:02:16,879 um ehes 64 00:02:20,949 --> 00:02:19,120 exceptional human experiences things 65 00:02:23,510 --> 00:02:20,959 that fall out of the norm 66 00:02:27,110 --> 00:02:23,520 that don't fit a reductionist program 67 00:02:28,790 --> 00:02:27,120 and it also is a universal truth 68 00:02:30,470 --> 00:02:28,800 for me it's hard to find things that are 69 00:02:32,390 --> 00:02:30,480 universal truths 70 00:02:33,910 --> 00:02:32,400 things that scale up from the atom to 71 00:02:35,350 --> 00:02:33,920 the cosmos 72 00:02:37,509 --> 00:02:35,360 usually we find 73 00:02:39,110 --> 00:02:37,519 to me we find a lot of truth with a 74 00:02:42,790 --> 00:02:39,120 small t 75 00:02:43,589 --> 00:02:42,800 very very little truth with a capital t 76 00:02:46,309 --> 00:02:43,599 so 77 00:02:47,670 --> 00:02:46,319 if you look at an atom 78 00:02:49,270 --> 00:02:47,680 an atom 79 00:02:51,670 --> 00:02:49,280 has 80 00:02:54,390 --> 00:02:51,680 a semi-permeable membrane with the outer 81 00:02:57,270 --> 00:02:54,400 outer orbit of the electron 82 00:02:59,350 --> 00:02:57,280 and areas of specialized function 83 00:03:01,990 --> 00:02:59,360 the nucleus and 84 00:03:04,149 --> 00:03:02,000 neutrons and protons 85 00:03:06,710 --> 00:03:04,159 an organic cell which is where the 86 00:03:08,710 --> 00:03:06,720 concept sort of came from 87 00:03:10,790 --> 00:03:08,720 we all know about cells they all have a 88 00:03:12,149 --> 00:03:10,800 semi-permeable membrane so things can 89 00:03:14,869 --> 00:03:12,159 get in and out 90 00:03:17,750 --> 00:03:14,879 and area is a specialized function 91 00:03:19,990 --> 00:03:17,760 the nucleus with the dna and rna the 92 00:03:22,790 --> 00:03:20,000 ribosomes multibodies all the things 93 00:03:24,630 --> 00:03:22,800 that are inside the cell 94 00:03:26,949 --> 00:03:24,640 then you can take that concept out to 95 00:03:29,990 --> 00:03:26,959 the solar system 96 00:03:33,910 --> 00:03:30,000 with with the heliosphere 97 00:03:38,210 --> 00:03:36,470 and the planets and the sun be in the 98 00:03:39,350 --> 00:03:38,220 areas of specialized function 99 00:03:41,030 --> 00:03:39,360 [Music] 100 00:03:43,589 --> 00:03:41,040 within it 101 00:03:45,350 --> 00:03:43,599 same thing with the milky way 102 00:03:48,470 --> 00:03:45,360 the milky way is just a collection of 103 00:03:50,789 --> 00:03:48,480 systems within systems within systems 104 00:03:52,550 --> 00:03:50,799 but they all have a region that theirs 105 00:03:54,149 --> 00:03:52,560 that's theirs 106 00:03:57,830 --> 00:03:54,159 and you can extend this all the way out 107 00:04:02,630 --> 00:03:57,840 to the universe on a universal scale 108 00:04:07,670 --> 00:04:05,350 everything in it is specialized areas of 109 00:04:11,509 --> 00:04:07,680 specialized function 110 00:04:12,309 --> 00:04:11,519 so i think that this concept 111 00:04:16,229 --> 00:04:12,319 should 112 00:04:18,310 --> 00:04:16,239 start looking at reality and 113 00:04:19,830 --> 00:04:18,320 investigating the world and that's what 114 00:04:22,469 --> 00:04:19,840 i'm going to show when i talk about the 115 00:04:24,390 --> 00:04:22,479 human whole genome and consciousness but 116 00:04:26,070 --> 00:04:24,400 i wanted to put this out there as a 117 00:04:28,710 --> 00:04:26,080 stepping stone 118 00:04:30,870 --> 00:04:28,720 to understand this because even when we 119 00:04:32,950 --> 00:04:30,880 get within a cell 120 00:04:34,550 --> 00:04:32,960 it's still system integration this is 121 00:04:36,310 --> 00:04:34,560 some really cool 122 00:04:39,110 --> 00:04:36,320 uh 123 00:04:42,950 --> 00:04:39,120 electron microscopy where they digitized 124 00:04:45,430 --> 00:04:42,960 it but even inside the cell you see air 125 00:04:47,990 --> 00:04:45,440 you see cells within cells areas with 126 00:04:49,270 --> 00:04:48,000 boundaries and things with specialized 127 00:04:50,710 --> 00:04:49,280 function 128 00:04:52,790 --> 00:04:50,720 inside it 129 00:04:55,270 --> 00:04:52,800 so this concept 130 00:04:57,590 --> 00:04:55,280 of cellular cosmology 131 00:04:59,430 --> 00:04:57,600 gives us a way to talk about 132 00:05:01,590 --> 00:04:59,440 system integration 133 00:05:03,510 --> 00:05:01,600 and the interconnectedness of things 134 00:05:05,110 --> 00:05:03,520 rather than the 135 00:05:08,469 --> 00:05:05,120 rather than looking at things through 136 00:05:14,070 --> 00:05:09,510 what 137 00:05:15,110 --> 00:05:14,080 on this 138 00:05:16,870 --> 00:05:15,120 was 139 00:05:21,830 --> 00:05:16,880 i wanted to know 140 00:05:24,629 --> 00:05:21,840 why i was not in control of myself 141 00:05:26,870 --> 00:05:24,639 and it may sound silly it may sound a 142 00:05:29,029 --> 00:05:26,880 little a little naive 143 00:05:31,670 --> 00:05:29,039 but i wanted to know 144 00:05:33,670 --> 00:05:31,680 if i said i'm going to like math 145 00:05:34,629 --> 00:05:33,680 or i'm going to like strawberry ice 146 00:05:36,710 --> 00:05:34,639 cream 147 00:05:39,029 --> 00:05:36,720 i declared it 148 00:05:41,029 --> 00:05:39,039 but for some reason 149 00:05:42,230 --> 00:05:41,039 it doesn't happen 150 00:05:45,110 --> 00:05:42,240 so 151 00:05:47,830 --> 00:05:45,120 it made me begin to question 152 00:05:50,710 --> 00:05:47,840 who's in charge of my shift 153 00:05:52,790 --> 00:05:50,720 and i worked on it for a long time 154 00:05:55,510 --> 00:05:52,800 and i was going at it from the ego view 155 00:05:57,430 --> 00:05:55,520 who am i what's going on here standard 156 00:05:59,590 --> 00:05:57,440 psychology look 157 00:06:02,710 --> 00:05:59,600 and it kept running in circles like 158 00:06:04,469 --> 00:06:02,720 i couldn't really get where i wanted to 159 00:06:06,469 --> 00:06:04,479 and i had a mentor tell me while i'm 160 00:06:08,390 --> 00:06:06,479 asking the wrong question so instead of 161 00:06:10,870 --> 00:06:08,400 asking who are you 162 00:06:14,790 --> 00:06:10,880 ask what are you 163 00:06:17,270 --> 00:06:14,800 so when i started looking at what i am 164 00:06:19,350 --> 00:06:17,280 that's where the cellular cosmology came 165 00:06:21,430 --> 00:06:19,360 up and i'll get into that and i'll get 166 00:06:23,670 --> 00:06:21,440 into this further but 167 00:06:25,350 --> 00:06:23,680 essentially every one of us is comprised 168 00:06:27,830 --> 00:06:25,360 of cells that's our 169 00:06:29,189 --> 00:06:27,840 building block 170 00:06:32,469 --> 00:06:29,199 so 171 00:06:37,510 --> 00:06:35,430 from a cosmological and a historical 172 00:06:38,870 --> 00:06:37,520 perspective 173 00:06:40,710 --> 00:06:38,880 the earth started four and a half 174 00:06:41,830 --> 00:06:40,720 billion years ago 175 00:06:44,870 --> 00:06:41,840 and 176 00:06:47,270 --> 00:06:44,880 it depends on whose information you look 177 00:06:49,670 --> 00:06:47,280 at it roughly took half a billion years 178 00:06:50,870 --> 00:06:49,680 for the earth to cool down 179 00:06:53,350 --> 00:06:50,880 and 180 00:06:56,150 --> 00:06:53,360 there's two two theories 181 00:06:58,710 --> 00:06:56,160 of how life started on the earth 182 00:07:01,670 --> 00:06:58,720 one is abiogenesis which says that 183 00:07:04,950 --> 00:07:01,680 things were just created here through 184 00:07:09,830 --> 00:07:07,270 connections of chemicals to finally 185 00:07:11,589 --> 00:07:09,840 molecules were formed 186 00:07:13,589 --> 00:07:11,599 but then there's also the concept of 187 00:07:14,870 --> 00:07:13,599 panspermia 188 00:07:16,629 --> 00:07:14,880 where 189 00:07:19,350 --> 00:07:16,639 the earth was seated 190 00:07:21,909 --> 00:07:19,360 because the universe is 191 00:07:24,230 --> 00:07:21,919 14 billion years old 192 00:07:27,430 --> 00:07:24,240 and the earth is relatively new compared 193 00:07:29,189 --> 00:07:27,440 to the giant timeline of the earth 194 00:07:32,070 --> 00:07:29,199 so 195 00:07:34,790 --> 00:07:32,080 thinking about occam's razor 196 00:07:37,270 --> 00:07:34,800 that the most economical answer 197 00:07:39,670 --> 00:07:37,280 is probably the right one 198 00:07:41,350 --> 00:07:39,680 the idea of panspermia works because we 199 00:07:42,469 --> 00:07:41,360 haven't proven 200 00:07:44,629 --> 00:07:42,479 that 201 00:07:47,909 --> 00:07:44,639 just putting chemicals in a primordial 202 00:07:50,070 --> 00:07:47,919 soup eventually life will pop out of it 203 00:07:52,230 --> 00:07:50,080 but if you look at the 204 00:07:53,510 --> 00:07:52,240 data and the information that we have 205 00:07:55,270 --> 00:07:53,520 from 206 00:07:56,629 --> 00:07:55,280 meteors 207 00:08:01,270 --> 00:07:56,639 that have 208 00:08:04,230 --> 00:08:01,280 they found 209 00:08:05,990 --> 00:08:04,240 fossilized microbes 210 00:08:08,309 --> 00:08:06,000 on the meteors 211 00:08:10,070 --> 00:08:08,319 and when crick and wasan the people that 212 00:08:12,710 --> 00:08:10,080 the the two guys that are credited with 213 00:08:14,230 --> 00:08:12,720 discovering dna 214 00:08:16,710 --> 00:08:14,240 when 215 00:08:18,390 --> 00:08:16,720 crick was asked how did you know how did 216 00:08:21,029 --> 00:08:18,400 dna start 217 00:08:22,790 --> 00:08:21,039 he was a proponent of panspermia 218 00:08:24,790 --> 00:08:22,800 they didn't want to hear that so they 219 00:08:27,270 --> 00:08:24,800 sort of ran him out and the latter part 220 00:08:31,749 --> 00:08:27,280 of his years he switched from 221 00:08:34,709 --> 00:08:31,759 biochemistry to looking at consciousness 222 00:08:37,909 --> 00:08:34,719 when you think about 223 00:08:40,230 --> 00:08:37,919 meteors bringing life to the planet 224 00:08:42,230 --> 00:08:40,240 um through panspermia 225 00:08:44,070 --> 00:08:42,240 one of the 226 00:08:45,350 --> 00:08:44,080 fungal spores 227 00:08:48,389 --> 00:08:45,360 can handle 228 00:08:50,870 --> 00:08:48,399 deep space and handle travel 229 00:08:52,550 --> 00:08:50,880 and another creature that's prevalent 230 00:08:55,269 --> 00:08:52,560 throughout every environment on the 231 00:08:56,470 --> 00:08:55,279 planet water deserts 232 00:08:58,870 --> 00:08:56,480 snow 233 00:09:00,790 --> 00:08:58,880 everywhere are the tardigrades or what's 234 00:09:02,870 --> 00:09:00,800 called water bears 235 00:09:05,590 --> 00:09:02,880 and if you look at them 236 00:09:08,070 --> 00:09:05,600 they look like astronauts they have the 237 00:09:10,310 --> 00:09:08,080 there's their body looks like the suits 238 00:09:11,670 --> 00:09:10,320 that our astronauts have 239 00:09:13,590 --> 00:09:11,680 um 240 00:09:16,870 --> 00:09:13,600 they can survive 241 00:09:17,990 --> 00:09:16,880 in 150 degrees celsius heat 242 00:09:19,430 --> 00:09:18,000 they can 243 00:09:21,670 --> 00:09:19,440 be frozen 244 00:09:23,190 --> 00:09:21,680 ice crystals in their body 245 00:09:26,790 --> 00:09:23,200 no water 246 00:09:31,269 --> 00:09:29,030 in our some of our experiments 247 00:09:32,310 --> 00:09:31,279 up to 50 years 248 00:09:33,430 --> 00:09:32,320 um 249 00:09:35,110 --> 00:09:33,440 and be 250 00:09:38,070 --> 00:09:35,120 regenerated 251 00:09:40,710 --> 00:09:38,080 um and they've survived every mass 252 00:09:43,509 --> 00:09:40,720 extinction they can rewrite their own 253 00:09:46,630 --> 00:09:43,519 dna and our their own dna 254 00:09:50,230 --> 00:09:46,640 so they would be a perfect 255 00:09:53,350 --> 00:09:50,240 cosmic traveler 256 00:09:54,150 --> 00:09:53,360 when we look at microbes 257 00:09:57,590 --> 00:09:54,160 and 258 00:09:59,269 --> 00:09:57,600 the basic cellular life here on earth 259 00:10:01,030 --> 00:09:59,279 they terraformed 260 00:10:03,750 --> 00:10:01,040 this planet 261 00:10:05,590 --> 00:10:03,760 for themselves 262 00:10:08,389 --> 00:10:05,600 we have a very 263 00:10:10,389 --> 00:10:08,399 egocentric view of reality and it colors 264 00:10:11,910 --> 00:10:10,399 a lot of our 265 00:10:13,269 --> 00:10:11,920 relationship 266 00:10:15,590 --> 00:10:13,279 to nature 267 00:10:18,949 --> 00:10:15,600 and our exploration within science and 268 00:10:21,509 --> 00:10:18,959 the quest and the way that we pose and 269 00:10:23,030 --> 00:10:21,519 ask our questions 270 00:10:25,590 --> 00:10:23,040 microbes 271 00:10:27,670 --> 00:10:25,600 made the soil 272 00:10:29,990 --> 00:10:27,680 made the atmosphere 273 00:10:33,190 --> 00:10:30,000 made the oceans and water all the things 274 00:10:34,550 --> 00:10:33,200 that we depend on as humans 275 00:10:36,790 --> 00:10:34,560 to live 276 00:10:39,829 --> 00:10:36,800 but they didn't do it for us 277 00:10:42,389 --> 00:10:39,839 they did it for themselves we're just 278 00:10:44,150 --> 00:10:42,399 we're just able to use 279 00:10:46,470 --> 00:10:44,160 what they design 280 00:10:49,750 --> 00:10:46,480 but it wasn't designed for us 281 00:10:54,310 --> 00:10:51,670 when you think of microbial 282 00:10:56,630 --> 00:10:54,320 proliferation 283 00:10:58,870 --> 00:10:56,640 from the early stages of life on this 284 00:11:02,069 --> 00:10:58,880 planet 285 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:02,079 there's only so much surface area 286 00:11:04,630 --> 00:11:03,530 so for a long time 287 00:11:05,750 --> 00:11:04,640 [Music] 288 00:11:08,790 --> 00:11:05,760 there were just 289 00:11:11,829 --> 00:11:08,800 basic cellular organisms 290 00:11:12,829 --> 00:11:11,839 and they pretty much covered 291 00:11:14,790 --> 00:11:12,839 all the 292 00:11:15,990 --> 00:11:14,800 area 293 00:11:16,790 --> 00:11:16,000 of the earth 294 00:11:20,150 --> 00:11:16,800 and 295 00:11:22,710 --> 00:11:20,160 the water 296 00:11:25,590 --> 00:11:22,720 it was full 297 00:11:29,190 --> 00:11:25,600 so if you're nature 298 00:11:32,710 --> 00:11:29,200 and you want to get 299 00:11:38,230 --> 00:11:35,430 organisms 300 00:11:39,430 --> 00:11:38,240 and you but you've got a limited space 301 00:11:41,110 --> 00:11:39,440 so 302 00:11:42,870 --> 00:11:41,120 you've got the 303 00:11:45,750 --> 00:11:42,880 the ball on the left represents the 304 00:11:47,750 --> 00:11:45,760 earth just a spear 305 00:11:50,470 --> 00:11:47,760 and the one on the right represents 306 00:11:51,590 --> 00:11:50,480 maximum density with all the dots on it 307 00:11:54,949 --> 00:11:51,600 so 308 00:11:58,470 --> 00:11:54,959 that's full of microbes bacteria viruses 309 00:12:00,389 --> 00:11:58,480 fungi the basic basic start of life on 310 00:12:01,269 --> 00:12:00,399 the planet 311 00:12:03,430 --> 00:12:01,279 so 312 00:12:05,590 --> 00:12:03,440 if you're nature how 313 00:12:06,509 --> 00:12:05,600 can you fit 314 00:12:08,870 --> 00:12:06,519 more 315 00:12:11,910 --> 00:12:08,880 microorganisms in 316 00:12:14,230 --> 00:12:11,920 you want to get more diversity 317 00:12:16,870 --> 00:12:14,240 you want to expand 318 00:12:19,829 --> 00:12:16,880 but you really can't expand the ball 319 00:12:22,790 --> 00:12:19,839 the planet is the size of the planet 320 00:12:26,629 --> 00:12:24,389 nature starts designing 321 00:12:28,069 --> 00:12:26,639 plants because if you look at the 322 00:12:30,150 --> 00:12:28,079 unfoldment 323 00:12:32,870 --> 00:12:30,160 of our history it was single-celled 324 00:12:34,310 --> 00:12:32,880 organisms and plants and insects and 325 00:12:36,310 --> 00:12:34,320 animals 326 00:12:40,389 --> 00:12:36,320 but if you follow 327 00:12:44,710 --> 00:12:43,110 we we as humans do the same thing you 328 00:12:46,870 --> 00:12:44,720 have a space of land like these 329 00:12:48,150 --> 00:12:46,880 buildings on the right it was a single 330 00:12:50,550 --> 00:12:48,160 home dwelling 331 00:12:53,350 --> 00:12:50,560 half four people can fit 332 00:12:54,870 --> 00:12:53,360 but if you build up from that spot now 333 00:12:56,790 --> 00:12:54,880 you can fit 334 00:12:57,829 --> 00:12:56,800 10 families 335 00:12:59,430 --> 00:12:57,839 so 336 00:13:01,190 --> 00:12:59,440 nature did the same thing when it 337 00:13:03,509 --> 00:13:01,200 designed plants 338 00:13:04,829 --> 00:13:03,519 it increased the surface area 339 00:13:08,389 --> 00:13:04,839 it increased the 340 00:13:10,870 --> 00:13:08,399 volume without having to change the 341 00:13:13,350 --> 00:13:10,880 physiology of the planet itself that was 342 00:13:14,870 --> 00:13:13,360 sort of limited 343 00:13:17,829 --> 00:13:14,880 so 344 00:13:20,550 --> 00:13:17,839 plants then took over and became as 345 00:13:22,310 --> 00:13:20,560 prolific as the microbes 346 00:13:24,550 --> 00:13:22,320 covered most of 347 00:13:28,230 --> 00:13:24,560 most of the soil 348 00:13:29,910 --> 00:13:28,240 and most of the areas where you can grow 349 00:13:31,590 --> 00:13:29,920 so then if your nature and you go on how 350 00:13:33,509 --> 00:13:31,600 can i fit 351 00:13:36,069 --> 00:13:33,519 more 352 00:13:39,590 --> 00:13:36,079 microbes in here how can i fit 353 00:13:41,189 --> 00:13:39,600 more of these cellular organisms 354 00:13:44,629 --> 00:13:41,199 well 355 00:13:49,990 --> 00:13:48,310 passenger transport systems 356 00:13:51,750 --> 00:13:50,000 insects were first 357 00:13:53,110 --> 00:13:51,760 but they weren't insects like worth 358 00:13:54,949 --> 00:13:53,120 thinking of 359 00:13:56,310 --> 00:13:54,959 look at the size of the centipede in the 360 00:13:58,949 --> 00:13:56,320 left picture 361 00:14:01,350 --> 00:13:58,959 that was a centipede 362 00:14:03,670 --> 00:14:01,360 back then and look at the size of the 363 00:14:05,829 --> 00:14:03,680 different compared to a human these were 364 00:14:07,590 --> 00:14:05,839 all insects it's a good thing they died 365 00:14:09,110 --> 00:14:07,600 out because i'd hate to run into one in 366 00:14:11,750 --> 00:14:09,120 my bedroom 367 00:14:15,110 --> 00:14:13,189 these 368 00:14:16,790 --> 00:14:15,120 transport systems 369 00:14:19,590 --> 00:14:16,800 that allowed nature to have more 370 00:14:21,189 --> 00:14:19,600 microbes on the planet 371 00:14:22,629 --> 00:14:21,199 without having 372 00:14:24,949 --> 00:14:22,639 to 373 00:14:27,990 --> 00:14:24,959 add more land 374 00:14:29,030 --> 00:14:28,000 and the density and the density of 375 00:14:30,470 --> 00:14:29,040 plants 376 00:14:32,949 --> 00:14:30,480 are maxed out 377 00:14:35,829 --> 00:14:32,959 so now you sort of have free-floating 378 00:14:37,829 --> 00:14:35,839 balloons or non-attached 379 00:14:39,430 --> 00:14:37,839 non-attached uh 380 00:14:40,470 --> 00:14:39,440 containers 381 00:14:44,230 --> 00:14:40,480 to 382 00:14:46,310 --> 00:14:44,240 cold bacteria viruses fungi all the 383 00:14:48,629 --> 00:14:46,320 things that have been crafting 384 00:14:51,030 --> 00:14:48,639 the planet and terraforming it 385 00:14:53,269 --> 00:14:51,040 all throughout history 386 00:14:54,949 --> 00:14:53,279 and then nature 387 00:14:57,110 --> 00:14:54,959 finds out that 388 00:14:59,829 --> 00:14:57,120 insects weren't the best 389 00:15:02,470 --> 00:14:59,839 and starts making animals reptiles and 390 00:15:03,670 --> 00:15:02,480 dinosaurs and then eventually animals as 391 00:15:05,910 --> 00:15:03,680 we know them 392 00:15:08,150 --> 00:15:05,920 and if you look at the comparison chart 393 00:15:11,110 --> 00:15:08,160 and think of them as 394 00:15:14,150 --> 00:15:11,120 micro transport systems 395 00:15:16,150 --> 00:15:14,160 it gives nature a variety of ways 396 00:15:17,350 --> 00:15:16,160 to 397 00:15:18,389 --> 00:15:17,360 move 398 00:15:22,389 --> 00:15:18,399 the 399 00:15:22,399 --> 00:15:27,509 of life here 400 00:15:32,870 --> 00:15:30,389 microbes have been here 401 00:15:36,150 --> 00:15:32,880 for quite a long time 402 00:15:39,269 --> 00:15:36,160 but we didn't become aware of them 403 00:15:41,350 --> 00:15:39,279 until 1675 404 00:15:43,910 --> 00:15:41,360 when lewin hook 405 00:15:46,470 --> 00:15:43,920 first saw 406 00:15:48,069 --> 00:15:46,480 bacteria in water 407 00:15:50,230 --> 00:15:48,079 and if you look at that microscope 408 00:15:51,990 --> 00:15:50,240 that's the very first microscope very 409 00:15:53,990 --> 00:15:52,000 simple design 410 00:15:55,509 --> 00:15:54,000 nothing like the microscopes we use 411 00:15:58,389 --> 00:15:55,519 today 412 00:16:00,790 --> 00:15:58,399 but all of our religions all of our 413 00:16:02,710 --> 00:16:00,800 philosophies all of our thoughts on 414 00:16:04,629 --> 00:16:02,720 reality 415 00:16:07,030 --> 00:16:04,639 have negated there's not one religion 416 00:16:09,910 --> 00:16:07,040 that talks about microbes bacteria and 417 00:16:11,910 --> 00:16:09,920 viruses there's not one philosophy that 418 00:16:13,590 --> 00:16:11,920 incorporates this into it 419 00:16:16,230 --> 00:16:13,600 yet these have been here since the 420 00:16:19,749 --> 00:16:16,240 beginning except we couldn't see them to 421 00:16:21,670 --> 00:16:19,759 incorporate them into our narratives 422 00:16:23,829 --> 00:16:21,680 and when lewin hook first came out with 423 00:16:25,670 --> 00:16:23,839 this and saw this 424 00:16:29,030 --> 00:16:25,680 nobody believed him 425 00:16:31,749 --> 00:16:29,040 um and information did not travel 426 00:16:34,310 --> 00:16:31,759 very fast in the 1600s 427 00:16:35,430 --> 00:16:34,320 people actually had to come to 428 00:16:37,670 --> 00:16:35,440 uh 429 00:16:39,910 --> 00:16:37,680 his hometown 430 00:16:43,269 --> 00:16:39,920 and 431 00:16:46,230 --> 00:16:43,279 go to his shop he made glasses 432 00:16:49,110 --> 00:16:46,240 and looked for themselves 433 00:16:52,310 --> 00:16:49,120 the first things that he saw 434 00:16:54,310 --> 00:16:52,320 he called them animal kills 435 00:16:56,870 --> 00:16:54,320 miniature animals 436 00:16:58,550 --> 00:16:56,880 and this really freaked everybody out 437 00:17:00,870 --> 00:16:58,560 think about it they look in the mouth 438 00:17:04,309 --> 00:17:00,880 there's all these creatures 439 00:17:05,990 --> 00:17:04,319 and in the very beginning of science 440 00:17:07,750 --> 00:17:06,000 they thought that all of this was 441 00:17:10,230 --> 00:17:07,760 negative 442 00:17:12,230 --> 00:17:10,240 we didn't get into the idea of symbionic 443 00:17:14,710 --> 00:17:12,240 relationships with the microbes into the 444 00:17:18,390 --> 00:17:14,720 1900s 445 00:17:19,510 --> 00:17:18,400 so our first look at the passengers 446 00:17:21,590 --> 00:17:19,520 was that 447 00:17:22,949 --> 00:17:21,600 we thought they didn't belong 448 00:17:25,270 --> 00:17:22,959 when 449 00:17:27,909 --> 00:17:25,280 they made us in a way if you want to 450 00:17:31,190 --> 00:17:29,029 so 451 00:17:33,110 --> 00:17:31,200 our first 452 00:17:35,990 --> 00:17:33,120 feral microscope started out in the 453 00:17:38,150 --> 00:17:36,000 1700s 454 00:17:40,310 --> 00:17:38,160 but we still couldn't see everything 455 00:17:42,789 --> 00:17:40,320 there was a lot of limits 456 00:17:46,549 --> 00:17:42,799 so until the electron microscope came 457 00:17:48,390 --> 00:17:46,559 along in the 1930s 1935 458 00:17:49,909 --> 00:17:48,400 that was the first time that we saw a 459 00:17:53,510 --> 00:17:49,919 virus 460 00:17:56,789 --> 00:17:53,520 the 1890s 461 00:17:59,110 --> 00:17:56,799 with the tobacco mosaic virus they 462 00:18:00,310 --> 00:17:59,120 thought it was there science did but 463 00:18:02,870 --> 00:18:00,320 they couldn't prove it because they 464 00:18:04,310 --> 00:18:02,880 couldn't see it they couldn't isolate it 465 00:18:07,430 --> 00:18:04,320 so it wasn't until the electron 466 00:18:10,549 --> 00:18:07,440 microscope that we could even verify 467 00:18:12,950 --> 00:18:10,559 there was such a thing as a virus 468 00:18:14,549 --> 00:18:12,960 and that's pretty funny that uh 469 00:18:18,549 --> 00:18:14,559 that's what we're dealing with right now 470 00:18:20,789 --> 00:18:18,559 socially is this concept of a virus 471 00:18:26,830 --> 00:18:20,799 that we've only known about for 60 years 472 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:31,669 now within nature 473 00:18:35,750 --> 00:18:33,510 systems within systems and system 474 00:18:38,710 --> 00:18:35,760 integration 475 00:18:39,909 --> 00:18:38,720 there are plenty of instances 476 00:18:41,350 --> 00:18:39,919 where 477 00:18:43,990 --> 00:18:41,360 microbes 478 00:18:46,230 --> 00:18:44,000 and or pathogens can come in 479 00:18:47,669 --> 00:18:46,240 and overtake the consciousness the 480 00:18:48,950 --> 00:18:47,679 behavior 481 00:18:51,750 --> 00:18:48,960 the 482 00:18:57,029 --> 00:18:54,470 thoughts if you want to put it that way 483 00:18:59,590 --> 00:18:57,039 of the host organism 484 00:19:02,310 --> 00:18:59,600 even to the detriment and death 485 00:19:03,750 --> 00:19:02,320 of that organism so that it benefits 486 00:19:05,510 --> 00:19:03,760 themselves 487 00:19:08,710 --> 00:19:05,520 the picture on the left 488 00:19:13,830 --> 00:19:11,669 carpenter ant here in thailand i live in 489 00:19:16,870 --> 00:19:13,840 bangkok thailand 490 00:19:19,029 --> 00:19:16,880 and it's infected with a fungus 491 00:19:21,590 --> 00:19:19,039 um 492 00:19:22,950 --> 00:19:21,600 the fungus 493 00:19:25,190 --> 00:19:22,960 actually 494 00:19:27,110 --> 00:19:25,200 infects the ant 495 00:19:30,310 --> 00:19:27,120 changes its behavior 496 00:19:32,950 --> 00:19:30,320 makes it go live or makes it come 497 00:19:34,310 --> 00:19:32,960 out of the trees bite on a leaf 498 00:19:36,630 --> 00:19:34,320 hang there 499 00:19:38,710 --> 00:19:36,640 and the fungus sprouts out and it 500 00:19:41,110 --> 00:19:38,720 becomes a fruiting body 501 00:19:44,789 --> 00:19:41,120 it completely takes over the behavior 502 00:19:46,470 --> 00:19:44,799 that ant almost like a bus driver 503 00:19:49,750 --> 00:19:46,480 picture on the right 504 00:19:53,029 --> 00:19:49,760 is a praying mantis it gets infected by 505 00:19:54,710 --> 00:19:53,039 what's called a whip worm 506 00:19:55,830 --> 00:19:54,720 it actually takes over the praying 507 00:19:59,190 --> 00:19:55,840 mantis 508 00:20:01,270 --> 00:19:59,200 and will make it drown itself 509 00:20:03,270 --> 00:20:01,280 so that it can come out 510 00:20:05,029 --> 00:20:03,280 in an environment where it wants to come 511 00:20:07,430 --> 00:20:05,039 out 512 00:20:09,270 --> 00:20:07,440 so these pat these microbes that have 513 00:20:12,310 --> 00:20:09,280 built our reality 514 00:20:16,230 --> 00:20:12,320 that have terraformed this planet 515 00:20:17,430 --> 00:20:16,240 also get in every organism 516 00:20:19,029 --> 00:20:17,440 and 517 00:20:20,789 --> 00:20:19,039 direct them 518 00:20:21,830 --> 00:20:20,799 or work with them 519 00:20:25,350 --> 00:20:21,840 in a 520 00:20:30,070 --> 00:20:26,310 now 521 00:20:34,870 --> 00:20:32,630 this guy irislau flieger 522 00:20:37,270 --> 00:20:34,880 was profiled in an article 523 00:20:39,110 --> 00:20:37,280 how your cat is making you crazy by 524 00:20:41,909 --> 00:20:39,120 kathleen mccallum 525 00:20:44,470 --> 00:20:41,919 in 1990 526 00:20:46,390 --> 00:20:44,480 he thought his thinking was going off he 527 00:20:49,110 --> 00:20:46,400 works at a university 528 00:20:51,590 --> 00:20:49,120 he notices that 529 00:20:54,630 --> 00:20:51,600 his behavior is changing 530 00:20:57,190 --> 00:20:54,640 um he's becoming self-destructive he's 531 00:20:59,750 --> 00:20:57,200 got personality changes 532 00:21:02,310 --> 00:20:59,760 so he biopsies his own brain 533 00:21:06,470 --> 00:21:02,320 he's a cat lover he finds out he's 534 00:21:09,270 --> 00:21:06,480 infected with t gandhi toxoplasma gandhi 535 00:21:11,510 --> 00:21:09,280 which is a bacteria that 536 00:21:13,830 --> 00:21:11,520 starts out 537 00:21:15,830 --> 00:21:13,840 in an animal in a mouse 538 00:21:18,470 --> 00:21:15,840 it needs to go to another host so it 539 00:21:20,870 --> 00:21:18,480 changes the mouse's behavior so it's not 540 00:21:21,830 --> 00:21:20,880 afraid of cats so it's attracted to 541 00:21:26,149 --> 00:21:21,840 urine 542 00:21:28,310 --> 00:21:26,159 the cats eat the mouse 543 00:21:30,310 --> 00:21:28,320 then 544 00:21:33,830 --> 00:21:30,320 the bacteria needs to get into a human 545 00:21:36,470 --> 00:21:33,840 host to finish its life cycle 546 00:21:38,710 --> 00:21:36,480 so the cats 547 00:21:41,190 --> 00:21:38,720 share it with the human 548 00:21:43,110 --> 00:21:41,200 through their feces 549 00:21:45,350 --> 00:21:43,120 and then it infects a human 550 00:21:47,110 --> 00:21:45,360 and goes to the human's brain 551 00:21:48,549 --> 00:21:47,120 the research on this 552 00:21:49,990 --> 00:21:48,559 shows that 553 00:21:51,350 --> 00:21:50,000 he started doing some very serious 554 00:21:54,230 --> 00:21:51,360 research 555 00:21:55,990 --> 00:21:54,240 and it's been duplicated and replicated 556 00:21:58,390 --> 00:21:56,000 but people that have cats and are 557 00:22:01,990 --> 00:21:58,400 infected with t gandia 558 00:22:03,909 --> 00:22:02,000 it actually changes the males 559 00:22:05,990 --> 00:22:03,919 so that they have 560 00:22:08,870 --> 00:22:06,000 uh 561 00:22:10,630 --> 00:22:08,880 delayed reaction times 562 00:22:12,390 --> 00:22:10,640 they're introverted 563 00:22:14,149 --> 00:22:12,400 they're suspicious 564 00:22:16,310 --> 00:22:14,159 they break rules 565 00:22:17,909 --> 00:22:16,320 but in females it has the opposite 566 00:22:20,630 --> 00:22:17,919 effect 567 00:22:22,630 --> 00:22:20,640 females become outgoing trusting law 568 00:22:25,270 --> 00:22:22,640 abiding 569 00:22:26,630 --> 00:22:25,280 but he also noticed that when you were 570 00:22:29,909 --> 00:22:26,640 infected 571 00:22:32,470 --> 00:22:29,919 that you had attention you had your 572 00:22:34,870 --> 00:22:32,480 attention levels decreased 573 00:22:35,750 --> 00:22:34,880 and you were more accident-prone 574 00:22:38,149 --> 00:22:35,760 and 575 00:22:40,549 --> 00:22:38,159 people had more accidents in their cars 576 00:22:42,470 --> 00:22:40,559 this research is still going on 577 00:22:45,029 --> 00:22:42,480 but it showed but i put it in here to 578 00:22:47,149 --> 00:22:45,039 show that at every level and every stage 579 00:22:50,549 --> 00:22:47,159 of nature 580 00:22:52,390 --> 00:22:50,559 microorganisms are actually influencing 581 00:22:55,029 --> 00:22:52,400 the host organism 582 00:22:57,110 --> 00:22:55,039 so who's really driving the ship 583 00:22:59,350 --> 00:22:57,120 that's what uh really interests me in 584 00:23:02,789 --> 00:22:59,360 this 585 00:23:06,630 --> 00:23:04,390 what percentage of the cells in your 586 00:23:07,750 --> 00:23:06,640 body are human 587 00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:07,760 okay 588 00:23:09,590 --> 00:23:08,640 10 589 00:23:13,110 --> 00:23:09,600 20 590 00:23:17,350 --> 00:23:15,190 pick a number what do you really think 591 00:23:20,070 --> 00:23:17,360 and i use the book there on the right i 592 00:23:21,909 --> 00:23:20,080 use human wildlife by dr buckman 593 00:23:24,549 --> 00:23:21,919 um just because i bought the book and 594 00:23:27,110 --> 00:23:24,559 that's the reference point i use but he 595 00:23:29,029 --> 00:23:27,120 also talks about relationships 596 00:23:31,909 --> 00:23:29,039 of the microorganisms so that's why i 597 00:23:38,470 --> 00:23:34,830 but the answer is 90 598 00:23:40,870 --> 00:23:38,480 percent of the cells in your body 599 00:23:43,909 --> 00:23:40,880 are not human 600 00:23:45,990 --> 00:23:43,919 so 90 of you and if 601 00:23:48,230 --> 00:23:46,000 if you look it up on the web the range 602 00:23:50,870 --> 00:23:48,240 is 60 to 90. 603 00:23:52,549 --> 00:23:50,880 there's every 604 00:23:54,149 --> 00:23:52,559 all the research shows the majority of 605 00:23:55,669 --> 00:23:54,159 the cells in the body 606 00:23:56,789 --> 00:23:55,679 are not 607 00:23:58,390 --> 00:23:56,799 human 608 00:24:01,510 --> 00:23:58,400 they are other 609 00:24:05,350 --> 00:24:03,750 now the rest of the cells that are left 610 00:24:07,110 --> 00:24:05,360 that we think of 611 00:24:10,470 --> 00:24:07,120 as human cells 612 00:24:11,750 --> 00:24:10,480 stem cells fat cells blood cells skin 613 00:24:15,750 --> 00:24:11,760 cells 614 00:24:18,310 --> 00:24:15,760 they're also 615 00:24:20,549 --> 00:24:18,320 independent life forms they're not 616 00:24:22,470 --> 00:24:20,559 dependent upon you 617 00:24:23,830 --> 00:24:22,480 you can take blood and donate it to 618 00:24:29,190 --> 00:24:23,840 somebody 619 00:24:30,470 --> 00:24:29,200 an organ or skin tissue to you 620 00:24:33,750 --> 00:24:30,480 you can 621 00:24:35,110 --> 00:24:33,760 grow almost anything in vitro in the lab 622 00:24:37,830 --> 00:24:35,120 this 623 00:24:40,390 --> 00:24:37,840 that's what we do when we do cloning 624 00:24:43,669 --> 00:24:40,400 and when a woman gives birth 625 00:24:47,350 --> 00:24:43,679 she literally expels 626 00:24:50,549 --> 00:24:47,360 a trillion cells outside of her body 627 00:24:52,630 --> 00:24:50,559 that she was growing 628 00:24:54,390 --> 00:24:52,640 and they exist and they exist on their 629 00:24:56,549 --> 00:24:54,400 own too 630 00:24:58,630 --> 00:24:56,559 so essentially there's 10 trillion cells 631 00:25:00,549 --> 00:24:58,640 in the human body 632 00:25:03,029 --> 00:25:00,559 and every one of them 633 00:25:05,029 --> 00:25:03,039 is an independent life form 634 00:25:09,029 --> 00:25:05,039 so in our language 635 00:25:11,750 --> 00:25:09,039 and our focus of self as a singularity 636 00:25:14,310 --> 00:25:11,760 we really shouldn't ever say i did this 637 00:25:18,630 --> 00:25:14,320 or i did that 638 00:25:22,390 --> 00:25:18,640 we should speak and communicate using we 639 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,710 but that's a lot for our egos to take 640 00:25:29,669 --> 00:25:28,710 when you look at the human genome and 641 00:25:31,350 --> 00:25:29,679 they're 642 00:25:32,870 --> 00:25:31,360 working on 643 00:25:35,669 --> 00:25:32,880 manipulating 644 00:25:40,950 --> 00:25:35,679 uh mrna with covid 645 00:25:45,029 --> 00:25:43,430 the microbiome 646 00:25:48,230 --> 00:25:45,039 when you start looking at and they've 647 00:25:49,430 --> 00:25:48,240 got no idea what the upper end is 648 00:25:51,590 --> 00:25:49,440 when you start looking at all the 649 00:25:54,549 --> 00:25:51,600 microbes in there 650 00:25:55,590 --> 00:25:54,559 now you're at billions of genes 651 00:25:58,149 --> 00:25:55,600 um 652 00:26:00,870 --> 00:25:58,159 latest research shows 653 00:26:03,710 --> 00:26:00,880 there's they and this was 654 00:26:07,830 --> 00:26:03,720 february of this year 655 00:26:08,789 --> 00:26:07,840 140 000 different viruses live in the 656 00:26:10,710 --> 00:26:08,799 mic 657 00:26:13,110 --> 00:26:10,720 live in the intestines 658 00:26:15,510 --> 00:26:13,120 140 000 659 00:26:18,310 --> 00:26:15,520 and this was all new research 660 00:26:20,390 --> 00:26:18,320 over half of the viruses they found were 661 00:26:22,390 --> 00:26:20,400 all new to science they didn't even know 662 00:26:24,630 --> 00:26:22,400 they existed 663 00:26:26,149 --> 00:26:24,640 so when you look at the human body 664 00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:26,159 you've got 665 00:26:30,789 --> 00:26:27,679 system integration within system 666 00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:30,799 integration within system integration 667 00:26:34,630 --> 00:26:32,400 you've got 668 00:26:37,269 --> 00:26:34,640 microbiomes in the mouth 669 00:26:39,990 --> 00:26:37,279 you've got microbiomes in the skin 670 00:26:41,430 --> 00:26:40,000 microbiomes in the digestion 671 00:26:43,350 --> 00:26:41,440 in your 672 00:26:45,990 --> 00:26:43,360 uh 673 00:26:48,549 --> 00:26:46,000 genital tracts 674 00:26:50,549 --> 00:26:48,559 and they're all shaping and and 675 00:26:53,590 --> 00:26:50,559 working on 676 00:26:57,750 --> 00:26:53,600 the system it's not just a human 677 00:26:59,669 --> 00:26:57,760 endeavor as how we think of a human 678 00:27:02,310 --> 00:26:59,679 and i always when i'm looking at science 679 00:27:05,029 --> 00:27:02,320 i always say follow the money 680 00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:05,039 so right now the pharmaceutical industry 681 00:27:08,149 --> 00:27:06,480 is putting out 682 00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:08,159 a line of chemicals or a line of 683 00:27:12,149 --> 00:27:11,039 products called psychobiotics 684 00:27:15,990 --> 00:27:12,159 where 685 00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:17,590 it's just a 686 00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:22,230 changes the microbiome in your 687 00:27:25,669 --> 00:27:24,640 intestines 688 00:27:29,190 --> 00:27:25,679 and 689 00:27:31,669 --> 00:27:29,200 it actually changes the way you think 690 00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:31,679 and the way you feel 691 00:27:36,389 --> 00:27:34,960 so if i can shift the microbiome in my 692 00:27:38,789 --> 00:27:36,399 stomach 693 00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:38,799 and it changes my thoughts and my 694 00:27:42,950 --> 00:27:40,960 emotions 695 00:27:45,190 --> 00:27:42,960 how much am i really in control of this 696 00:27:48,310 --> 00:27:45,200 shift 697 00:27:51,190 --> 00:27:48,320 now i'm starting to see why 698 00:27:56,070 --> 00:27:51,200 i can't make myself 699 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,149 to get a better idea of this 700 00:28:05,190 --> 00:28:02,549 i made a timeline 701 00:28:06,549 --> 00:28:05,200 of the earth 702 00:28:08,310 --> 00:28:06,559 as a metaphor 703 00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:08,320 because this is a hard concept because 704 00:28:12,310 --> 00:28:10,240 it really goes against our egos and our 705 00:28:15,510 --> 00:28:12,320 concept of self 706 00:28:17,830 --> 00:28:15,520 so on this calendar 707 00:28:21,669 --> 00:28:17,840 the the time of earth is broken up into 708 00:28:25,830 --> 00:28:21,679 a year every month is 375 million years 709 00:28:27,909 --> 00:28:25,840 one second represents 145 years 710 00:28:29,190 --> 00:28:27,919 so if you look at it the red line is the 711 00:28:33,269 --> 00:28:29,200 microbes 712 00:28:35,990 --> 00:28:33,279 middle of february 713 00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:36,000 this present moment for this metaphor is 714 00:28:41,830 --> 00:28:38,399 one second before midnight 715 00:28:44,470 --> 00:28:41,840 11 59 and 59 seconds one second before 716 00:28:46,230 --> 00:28:44,480 midnight new year's eve 717 00:28:48,310 --> 00:28:46,240 so 718 00:28:49,430 --> 00:28:48,320 from the middle of february 719 00:28:51,750 --> 00:28:49,440 up until 720 00:28:54,389 --> 00:28:51,760 new year's microbes have been here doing 721 00:28:58,470 --> 00:28:55,830 november 722 00:29:01,269 --> 00:28:58,480 is where we first start seeing 723 00:29:04,549 --> 00:29:01,279 life as we know it 724 00:29:07,830 --> 00:29:04,559 end of october we see plants 725 00:29:09,669 --> 00:29:07,840 uh single cell simple ones 726 00:29:11,909 --> 00:29:09,679 early november 727 00:29:16,149 --> 00:29:11,919 we see animals fish in the middle of 728 00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:16,159 november insects end of november 729 00:29:20,710 --> 00:29:18,960 dinosaurs which everybody knows about on 730 00:29:21,909 --> 00:29:20,720 this calendar dinosaurs were only two 731 00:29:24,870 --> 00:29:21,919 weeks ago 732 00:29:26,389 --> 00:29:24,880 their middle of december 733 00:29:27,750 --> 00:29:26,399 mammals 734 00:29:31,430 --> 00:29:27,760 after that 735 00:29:34,549 --> 00:29:31,440 birds towards the end and even flowers 736 00:29:35,750 --> 00:29:34,559 plants didn't get flowers until 737 00:29:37,990 --> 00:29:35,760 a week ago 738 00:29:40,789 --> 00:29:38,000 on this calendar but what gets really 739 00:29:43,909 --> 00:29:40,799 interesting are the last couple days 740 00:29:46,149 --> 00:29:43,919 december 28th the first date 741 00:29:49,750 --> 00:29:46,159 28 million years ago 742 00:29:51,669 --> 00:29:49,760 december 31st humans split up from the 743 00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:51,679 eighth family at six o'clock in the 744 00:29:55,830 --> 00:29:53,440 morning 745 00:29:59,430 --> 00:29:55,840 anatomical modern man 746 00:30:02,630 --> 00:29:59,440 doesn't appear until 11 30. it's 11 59 747 00:30:04,549 --> 00:30:02,640 right now 29 minutes ago anatomical man 748 00:30:06,310 --> 00:30:04,559 appeared 749 00:30:09,909 --> 00:30:06,320 homo sapiens 750 00:30:13,110 --> 00:30:09,919 didn't win as being the dominant hominid 751 00:30:15,029 --> 00:30:13,120 until 11 58 so two minutes ago 752 00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:15,039 homo florence's still existed in 753 00:30:23,830 --> 00:30:20,830 and then when you look at this whole 754 00:30:25,430 --> 00:30:23,840 picture with microbes being here since 755 00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:25,440 february 756 00:30:32,149 --> 00:30:28,320 we did not become aware of microbes 757 00:30:37,830 --> 00:30:34,710 until the 1600s 758 00:30:39,590 --> 00:30:37,840 and actually parapsychology only started 759 00:30:41,590 --> 00:30:39,600 a second ago 760 00:30:43,590 --> 00:30:41,600 so we're sort of young 761 00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:43,600 in our really in our 762 00:30:48,070 --> 00:30:45,440 real look about 763 00:30:49,909 --> 00:30:48,080 reality and consciousness and what's 764 00:30:52,149 --> 00:30:49,919 going on and we've been actually 765 00:30:53,590 --> 00:30:52,159 ignoring 766 00:30:55,029 --> 00:30:53,600 the main 767 00:30:56,710 --> 00:30:55,039 factor 768 00:30:59,430 --> 00:30:56,720 that's been here for 769 00:31:00,389 --> 00:30:59,440 11 months out of this year 770 00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:00,399 and 771 00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:04,080 we've only been here for a few minutes 772 00:31:08,710 --> 00:31:05,760 and we've only known about them for a 773 00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:10,870 it really shows you 774 00:31:17,909 --> 00:31:15,830 and it makes me 775 00:31:19,830 --> 00:31:17,919 more curious means there's a lot more to 776 00:31:20,230 --> 00:31:19,840 know 777 00:31:21,909 --> 00:31:20,240 um 778 00:31:24,310 --> 00:31:21,919 [Music] 779 00:31:26,389 --> 00:31:24,320 the implications of the influences of 780 00:31:27,669 --> 00:31:26,399 the microbes on us everybody knows about 781 00:31:28,950 --> 00:31:27,679 rabies 782 00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:28,960 okay 783 00:31:33,830 --> 00:31:31,360 and you get a rabies from a bite from an 784 00:31:35,350 --> 00:31:33,840 animal that's infected 785 00:31:38,470 --> 00:31:35,360 but 786 00:31:41,909 --> 00:31:38,480 the rabies goes up into our brain 787 00:31:44,149 --> 00:31:41,919 and it actually takes over the person 788 00:31:47,750 --> 00:31:44,159 and the rabies wants to spread so the 789 00:31:49,909 --> 00:31:47,760 reason why the dog bit you 790 00:31:50,630 --> 00:31:49,919 is the same reason it it's gonna make 791 00:31:53,430 --> 00:31:50,640 you 792 00:31:56,630 --> 00:31:53,440 go bite somebody else 793 00:31:58,149 --> 00:31:56,640 the idea of a rabies infected person 794 00:32:00,950 --> 00:31:58,159 they sort of think that's where our 795 00:32:02,870 --> 00:32:00,960 mythos of the zombies came from 796 00:32:04,950 --> 00:32:02,880 because the rabies takes over a person 797 00:32:06,870 --> 00:32:04,960 if it's not treated and makes them 798 00:32:08,310 --> 00:32:06,880 promiscuous where they want to have sex 799 00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:08,320 and spread the 800 00:32:12,389 --> 00:32:10,480 spread the pathogen 801 00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:12,399 and they make you bite 802 00:32:16,789 --> 00:32:15,120 snap at people people in the last days 803 00:32:18,710 --> 00:32:16,799 have to be tied down the table because 804 00:32:20,549 --> 00:32:18,720 they'll just fight anybody who comes 805 00:32:23,190 --> 00:32:20,559 near them 806 00:32:25,029 --> 00:32:23,200 so there's an example of 807 00:32:27,029 --> 00:32:25,039 something that we all know of just 808 00:32:29,190 --> 00:32:27,039 taking over the system taking over the 809 00:32:31,269 --> 00:32:29,200 human mind 810 00:32:32,389 --> 00:32:31,279 diets we've all 811 00:32:33,909 --> 00:32:32,399 been on 812 00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:33,919 on the picture on the right we've all 813 00:32:39,990 --> 00:32:36,720 been on some kind of diet in our life 814 00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:41,750 when you feed yourself 815 00:32:45,590 --> 00:32:43,840 you're not feeding you you're feeding 816 00:32:49,190 --> 00:32:45,600 the microbes in your intestines the 817 00:32:50,630 --> 00:32:49,200 human body cannot digest any food 818 00:32:53,029 --> 00:32:50,640 so if you're going down the road and 819 00:32:54,789 --> 00:32:53,039 you're having a craving 820 00:32:56,950 --> 00:32:54,799 for a donut 821 00:33:00,149 --> 00:32:56,960 and you're on a diet you start going 822 00:33:02,389 --> 00:33:00,159 psychology wise oh i'm sabotaging my 823 00:33:05,029 --> 00:33:02,399 diet it's a comfort food 824 00:33:07,269 --> 00:33:05,039 um i'm addicted to sugar 825 00:33:08,630 --> 00:33:07,279 never do we think that the bacteria in 826 00:33:11,190 --> 00:33:08,640 our stomach 827 00:33:13,110 --> 00:33:11,200 desire the yeast or the sugar something 828 00:33:17,750 --> 00:33:13,120 that's in the donut 829 00:33:22,830 --> 00:33:20,070 c-sections 830 00:33:27,509 --> 00:33:25,669 that birthing a baby with a c-section 831 00:33:30,149 --> 00:33:27,519 was better for it 832 00:33:33,269 --> 00:33:30,159 because it stopped the baby from being 833 00:33:35,669 --> 00:33:33,279 exposed to microbes 834 00:33:36,470 --> 00:33:35,679 coming out through the vaginal canal 835 00:33:38,070 --> 00:33:36,480 well 836 00:33:40,870 --> 00:33:38,080 now they're finding that that's not such 837 00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:40,880 a great idea because children that are 838 00:33:43,669 --> 00:33:41,760 have 839 00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:43,679 come from c-sections 840 00:33:49,669 --> 00:33:45,600 greater chance 841 00:33:52,789 --> 00:33:49,679 by a lot of having asthma and obesity 842 00:33:54,710 --> 00:33:52,799 and if their microbiome is not balanced 843 00:33:56,070 --> 00:33:54,720 inside their intestines within the first 844 00:33:57,990 --> 00:33:56,080 month 845 00:34:00,230 --> 00:33:58,000 um within the first year they have a 846 00:34:02,389 --> 00:34:00,240 higher fear response 847 00:34:03,990 --> 00:34:02,399 latest research came out this month 848 00:34:06,549 --> 00:34:04,000 shows with boys 849 00:34:09,109 --> 00:34:06,559 that there's a certain kind of bacteria 850 00:34:13,109 --> 00:34:09,119 bacteria bacterioditis 851 00:34:14,230 --> 00:34:13,119 that if it's in there in a heavy amount 852 00:34:17,750 --> 00:34:14,240 that 853 00:34:20,550 --> 00:34:17,760 male child will have enhanced cognition 854 00:34:22,550 --> 00:34:20,560 and greater speech development so now 855 00:34:23,510 --> 00:34:22,560 they're thinking about doing microbial 856 00:34:28,069 --> 00:34:23,520 seeding 857 00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:28,079 that has vaginal secretions from the mom 858 00:34:31,589 --> 00:34:30,480 and wiping it on the baby 859 00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:31,599 so 860 00:34:37,990 --> 00:34:34,960 even birth is showing us that there's 861 00:34:39,829 --> 00:34:38,000 these microbes all have a purpose on 862 00:34:42,710 --> 00:34:39,839 what a human is how we function 863 00:34:45,190 --> 00:34:42,720 cognitively emotionally 864 00:34:47,589 --> 00:34:45,200 um in spain they did research and they 865 00:34:50,069 --> 00:34:47,599 took people with low iqs 866 00:34:53,349 --> 00:34:50,079 and they found that the majority of them 867 00:34:55,190 --> 00:34:53,359 had a chlorovirus atcv1 868 00:34:56,550 --> 00:34:55,200 and they called it el virus de la 869 00:34:58,470 --> 00:34:56,560 stupides 870 00:35:02,470 --> 00:34:58,480 the virus of the stupid 871 00:35:05,190 --> 00:35:04,069 so 872 00:35:07,510 --> 00:35:05,200 i gotta 873 00:35:10,710 --> 00:35:07,520 push this a little here um so when you 874 00:35:13,589 --> 00:35:10,720 look at if you're thinking of micros and 875 00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:13,599 you're thinking of reality and nature 876 00:35:17,430 --> 00:35:16,000 being a proliferation and 877 00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:17,440 [Music] 878 00:35:21,430 --> 00:35:19,200 support of it 879 00:35:23,829 --> 00:35:21,440 when you see a rocket 880 00:35:25,589 --> 00:35:23,839 go up off the earth as humans we go oh 881 00:35:27,109 --> 00:35:25,599 wow that's really cool we're going out 882 00:35:28,470 --> 00:35:27,119 to space 883 00:35:29,589 --> 00:35:28,480 but in the middle picture if you're 884 00:35:31,270 --> 00:35:29,599 nature 885 00:35:33,430 --> 00:35:31,280 and you see what's going on all those 886 00:35:34,950 --> 00:35:33,440 little white dots represent satellites 887 00:35:36,870 --> 00:35:34,960 and things that we've launched from the 888 00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:36,880 earth 889 00:35:39,670 --> 00:35:38,480 and you look at the picture on the far 890 00:35:42,230 --> 00:35:39,680 right 891 00:35:45,190 --> 00:35:42,240 and that's a mushroom putting spores out 892 00:35:46,390 --> 00:35:45,200 into the environment to increase itself 893 00:35:48,470 --> 00:35:46,400 so 894 00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:48,480 are we sending spores out 895 00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:50,400 into nature 896 00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:51,760 yes 897 00:35:54,710 --> 00:35:52,560 but 898 00:35:56,310 --> 00:35:54,720 are we doing it 899 00:35:58,790 --> 00:35:56,320 or is something else 900 00:36:00,310 --> 00:35:58,800 assisting us in it 901 00:36:02,630 --> 00:36:00,320 now i'll wrap it up and tie it into 902 00:36:03,910 --> 00:36:02,640 parapsychology 903 00:36:07,510 --> 00:36:03,920 so 904 00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:07,520 most of you know what parapsychology is 905 00:36:12,950 --> 00:36:10,720 but just to make sure i just used oxford 906 00:36:15,829 --> 00:36:12,960 the study of mental phenomenon which are 907 00:36:18,230 --> 00:36:15,839 excluded or inexplicable by orthodox 908 00:36:20,950 --> 00:36:18,240 scientific psychology 909 00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:20,960 i've got a master's in transpersonal 910 00:36:23,510 --> 00:36:22,560 psychology 911 00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:23,520 so 912 00:36:28,790 --> 00:36:25,440 this is my area 913 00:36:30,790 --> 00:36:28,800 um and what i'm going to talk about here 914 00:36:33,270 --> 00:36:30,800 there's a broad there's a broader 915 00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:33,280 parapsychology is a very broad spectrum 916 00:36:39,589 --> 00:36:36,160 everything from remote viewing esp 917 00:36:41,270 --> 00:36:39,599 to physical effects like psychokinesis 918 00:36:43,190 --> 00:36:41,280 what i'm after in here and what i want 919 00:36:48,230 --> 00:36:43,200 to discuss is the idea of non-local 920 00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:51,030 um 921 00:36:55,030 --> 00:36:53,190 everybody knows jb ryan if you're a 922 00:36:58,150 --> 00:36:55,040 parapsychologist he's the father of 923 00:37:05,230 --> 00:37:01,670 there he is doing zenner cards which are 924 00:37:10,069 --> 00:37:07,109 parapsychologists for 925 00:37:12,550 --> 00:37:10,079 research and study 926 00:37:13,910 --> 00:37:12,560 one of my heroes is in the middle there 927 00:37:15,750 --> 00:37:13,920 yuri geller 928 00:37:17,190 --> 00:37:15,760 remote viewing 929 00:37:18,550 --> 00:37:17,200 that's where you're able to sit in a 930 00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:18,560 spot 931 00:37:23,349 --> 00:37:21,040 and get information 932 00:37:26,470 --> 00:37:23,359 from a target 933 00:37:28,950 --> 00:37:26,480 geographically nowhere near you 934 00:37:31,030 --> 00:37:28,960 and then the standard idea of telepathy 935 00:37:32,790 --> 00:37:31,040 transference of ideas or the reading of 936 00:37:35,230 --> 00:37:32,800 people's minds 937 00:37:39,430 --> 00:37:35,240 these are all cognitive 938 00:37:43,670 --> 00:37:41,589 one of my favorites 939 00:37:45,829 --> 00:37:43,680 is rupert sheldrake 940 00:37:47,109 --> 00:37:45,839 i use this when i teach 941 00:37:49,109 --> 00:37:47,119 dogs that know when their owners are 942 00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:49,119 coming home if you guys have anybody 943 00:37:53,430 --> 00:37:51,280 hasn't studied this it's actually 944 00:37:57,589 --> 00:37:53,440 worth checking out 945 00:37:59,349 --> 00:37:58,390 will 946 00:38:02,710 --> 00:37:59,359 their 947 00:38:04,310 --> 00:38:02,720 get ready for them 948 00:38:05,829 --> 00:38:04,320 when they come home they know when 949 00:38:07,990 --> 00:38:05,839 they're coming home even 950 00:38:09,750 --> 00:38:08,000 even if it's completely unscheduled and 951 00:38:12,790 --> 00:38:09,760 randomized which is what they did in the 952 00:38:19,270 --> 00:38:15,270 so when we're thinking about this 953 00:38:22,870 --> 00:38:21,270 how can the dogs know 954 00:38:24,390 --> 00:38:22,880 how can you know what's in somebody's 955 00:38:26,790 --> 00:38:24,400 mind 956 00:38:29,030 --> 00:38:26,800 we're looking for 957 00:38:31,190 --> 00:38:29,040 in parapsychology and transversal 958 00:38:33,990 --> 00:38:31,200 psychology we're looking for mechanisms 959 00:38:35,510 --> 00:38:34,000 of this communication 960 00:38:38,310 --> 00:38:35,520 so 961 00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:38,320 just like we just saw 962 00:38:41,589 --> 00:38:39,680 microbes 963 00:38:43,589 --> 00:38:41,599 300 years ago 964 00:38:45,670 --> 00:38:43,599 we're just now realizing that there's a 965 00:38:48,870 --> 00:38:45,680 thing called forum scentsy 966 00:38:51,750 --> 00:38:48,880 which is the communication network 967 00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:51,760 inside the microbial communities 968 00:38:55,270 --> 00:38:53,520 um 969 00:38:56,870 --> 00:38:55,280 fungus 970 00:38:59,349 --> 00:38:56,880 they're finding that 971 00:39:02,069 --> 00:38:59,359 in the soil there's a fungal network 972 00:39:04,630 --> 00:39:02,079 that connects the roots of every plant 973 00:39:06,310 --> 00:39:04,640 and transfers information actually even 974 00:39:08,150 --> 00:39:06,320 transfers nutrients and foods and 975 00:39:10,710 --> 00:39:08,160 chemicals 976 00:39:16,390 --> 00:39:13,510 technology this past year 977 00:39:17,670 --> 00:39:16,400 let them be able to look into a piece of 978 00:39:19,270 --> 00:39:17,680 soil 979 00:39:21,670 --> 00:39:19,280 usually when they look into it they 980 00:39:25,030 --> 00:39:21,680 disturb it but they were finally able to 981 00:39:27,589 --> 00:39:25,040 see that there is a fungal network one 982 00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:27,599 cell thick 983 00:39:33,510 --> 00:39:31,920 like telephone wires or computer wires 984 00:39:35,510 --> 00:39:33,520 going through 985 00:39:39,910 --> 00:39:35,520 the whole surface of soil throughout the 986 00:39:43,190 --> 00:39:39,920 planet so there's your world wide web 987 00:39:45,910 --> 00:39:43,200 already built in you've got a fungal web 988 00:39:49,030 --> 00:39:45,920 so when we're looking for a mechanism 989 00:39:52,069 --> 00:39:49,040 so how we can have a transference 990 00:39:53,950 --> 00:39:52,079 of non-local information 991 00:39:57,030 --> 00:39:53,960 i think quorum sensing is something that 992 00:39:58,630 --> 00:39:57,040 parapsychology should be looking into 993 00:40:00,470 --> 00:39:58,640 standard science gets into the 994 00:40:01,910 --> 00:40:00,480 biochemical and this is what i'm showing 995 00:40:03,990 --> 00:40:01,920 in this picture here 996 00:40:05,829 --> 00:40:04,000 usually when they look at quorum sensing 997 00:40:08,309 --> 00:40:05,839 they're looking at the physical 998 00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:08,319 biochemical reactions of bacteria and 999 00:40:13,270 --> 00:40:10,480 fungus 1000 00:40:16,150 --> 00:40:13,280 but standard science 1001 00:40:19,430 --> 00:40:16,160 cannot account for consciousness 1002 00:40:22,309 --> 00:40:19,440 if we follow the big bang theory 1003 00:40:25,589 --> 00:40:22,319 consciousness is the result of random 1004 00:40:29,109 --> 00:40:25,599 combination of molecules just like 1005 00:40:35,670 --> 00:40:32,950 i sort of lean towards biocentrism 1006 00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:35,680 so instead of consciousness 1007 00:40:40,870 --> 00:40:38,640 being an accidental byproduct 1008 00:40:42,870 --> 00:40:40,880 of physical and chemical interactions 1009 00:40:45,910 --> 00:40:42,880 within the universe 1010 00:40:48,870 --> 00:40:45,920 that consciousness was here first 1011 00:40:50,950 --> 00:40:48,880 and created the universe the big bang 1012 00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:50,960 as a place to play out 1013 00:40:54,870 --> 00:40:53,040 creativity 1014 00:40:56,630 --> 00:40:54,880 but that would be on an energetic 1015 00:40:57,510 --> 00:40:56,640 spectrum that would be different than 1016 00:40:59,510 --> 00:40:57,520 what 1017 00:41:00,309 --> 00:40:59,520 standard reductionist science is looking 1018 00:41:07,109 --> 00:41:00,319 at 1019 00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:07,119 for consciousness and because 1020 00:41:11,190 --> 00:41:08,800 parapsychology 1021 00:41:13,430 --> 00:41:11,200 and a lot of transpersonal psychology 1022 00:41:16,710 --> 00:41:13,440 they're trying to prove 1023 00:41:17,990 --> 00:41:16,720 valid experiences 1024 00:41:20,550 --> 00:41:18,000 in a system 1025 00:41:21,990 --> 00:41:20,560 that discounts the whole concept 1026 00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:22,000 completely 1027 00:41:26,950 --> 00:41:24,960 um that 1028 00:41:28,870 --> 00:41:26,960 consciousness 1029 00:41:30,309 --> 00:41:28,880 is not an energetic property 1030 00:41:33,349 --> 00:41:30,319 consciousness is just a physical 1031 00:41:36,150 --> 00:41:33,359 property that's what science thinks 1032 00:41:39,829 --> 00:41:36,160 and does not extend modern science does 1033 00:41:42,950 --> 00:41:39,839 not extend the nature of consciousness 1034 00:41:44,150 --> 00:41:42,960 to animals nature insects plants or 1035 00:41:47,430 --> 00:41:44,160 microbes 1036 00:41:49,030 --> 00:41:47,440 but yet the evidence is there 1037 00:41:54,870 --> 00:41:49,040 slime mold 1038 00:41:57,109 --> 00:41:54,880 cells that sort of join together 1039 00:41:59,430 --> 00:41:57,119 can solve a maze 1040 00:42:03,270 --> 00:41:59,440 the picture on the left they use slime 1041 00:42:05,190 --> 00:42:03,280 mold to design japan's subway system 1042 00:42:07,829 --> 00:42:05,200 picture on the right 1043 00:42:11,829 --> 00:42:07,839 slime mold is being used to 1044 00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:11,839 just to create logistic routes 1045 00:42:16,710 --> 00:42:15,040 because slime mold will take will take 1046 00:42:18,069 --> 00:42:16,720 the shortest route most direct route 1047 00:42:20,470 --> 00:42:18,079 possible 1048 00:42:23,270 --> 00:42:20,480 between food sources 1049 00:42:27,430 --> 00:42:25,750 the implications 1050 00:42:29,589 --> 00:42:27,440 so what i want this whole thing was 1051 00:42:32,390 --> 00:42:29,599 leading up to showing that there's a 1052 00:42:33,990 --> 00:42:32,400 natural communication network 1053 00:42:37,510 --> 00:42:34,000 already established to account for 1054 00:42:39,589 --> 00:42:37,520 non-local information transference 1055 00:42:42,630 --> 00:42:39,599 there's no denying 1056 00:42:45,910 --> 00:42:42,640 that with cellular cosmology 1057 00:42:50,710 --> 00:42:45,920 that the microbes parasite the 1058 00:42:55,670 --> 00:42:52,630 is what we are 1059 00:42:56,470 --> 00:42:55,680 and that they're communicating 1060 00:42:57,270 --> 00:42:56,480 so 1061 00:42:59,750 --> 00:42:57,280 how 1062 00:43:00,870 --> 00:42:59,760 we haven't even really started trying to 1063 00:43:03,030 --> 00:43:00,880 listen 1064 00:43:04,230 --> 00:43:03,040 to what's going on 1065 00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:04,240 um 1066 00:43:08,309 --> 00:43:05,760 one of the ways that i think that this 1067 00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:08,319 could be study 1068 00:43:13,270 --> 00:43:10,560 will be doing fecal transplants or 1069 00:43:15,829 --> 00:43:13,280 refluorization 1070 00:43:19,510 --> 00:43:15,839 um they use this right now 1071 00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:19,520 for atd and adhd kids to try to help 1072 00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:20,480 them 1073 00:43:24,550 --> 00:43:23,440 um they do experiments with mice and 1074 00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:24,560 they'll take 1075 00:43:28,550 --> 00:43:26,800 the fecal matter from 1076 00:43:30,630 --> 00:43:28,560 a fat mouse 1077 00:43:34,550 --> 00:43:30,640 or from a skinny mouse and put it in fat 1078 00:43:36,870 --> 00:43:34,560 mouse and the fat mouse will lose weight 1079 00:43:39,190 --> 00:43:36,880 so what if we did some 1080 00:43:41,510 --> 00:43:39,200 reflurization 1081 00:43:44,069 --> 00:43:41,520 with people that were good meditators 1082 00:43:46,150 --> 00:43:44,079 people are trying to create intuitive 1083 00:43:48,550 --> 00:43:46,160 connections between people 1084 00:43:49,910 --> 00:43:48,560 i think that would be a 1085 00:43:51,190 --> 00:43:49,920 good step 1086 00:43:53,190 --> 00:43:51,200 to 1087 00:43:54,870 --> 00:43:53,200 testing this out 1088 00:43:56,390 --> 00:43:54,880 um 1089 00:43:58,470 --> 00:43:56,400 and then 1090 00:44:00,390 --> 00:43:58,480 personally for me 1091 00:44:04,790 --> 00:44:00,400 uh psychedelics 1092 00:44:08,950 --> 00:44:07,270 if you haven't done it 1093 00:44:10,630 --> 00:44:08,960 you might not you might think i'm a 1094 00:44:12,790 --> 00:44:10,640 little strange with this but if you have 1095 00:44:15,430 --> 00:44:12,800 done it 1096 00:44:17,270 --> 00:44:15,440 you can access and 1097 00:44:19,670 --> 00:44:17,280 connect with another form of 1098 00:44:21,430 --> 00:44:19,680 consciousness i've had 1099 00:44:25,270 --> 00:44:21,440 mushroom journeys where they show me 1100 00:44:27,510 --> 00:44:25,280 that they're connected to everything and 1101 00:44:29,349 --> 00:44:27,520 i have been able to pick up non-local 1102 00:44:31,670 --> 00:44:29,359 information 1103 00:44:35,190 --> 00:44:31,680 through these exchanges and experiences 1104 00:44:43,109 --> 00:44:38,790 and as i wrap this up here 1105 00:44:50,710 --> 00:44:47,510 our scientific re view of reality 1106 00:44:52,550 --> 00:44:50,720 is the basis of our civilization and we 1107 00:44:54,470 --> 00:44:52,560 base all of our science on the act of 1108 00:44:57,270 --> 00:44:54,480 observing 1109 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:01,270 an intellectual 1110 00:45:05,510 --> 00:45:02,870 concept 1111 00:45:07,270 --> 00:45:05,520 and nowhere tonight did i mention 1112 00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:07,280 emotions 1113 00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:08,400 um 1114 00:45:11,109 --> 00:45:09,520 but yet 1115 00:45:12,470 --> 00:45:11,119 everything that we do within 1116 00:45:14,950 --> 00:45:12,480 consciousness 1117 00:45:16,870 --> 00:45:14,960 and science and research 1118 00:45:18,790 --> 00:45:16,880 all observations have an emotional 1119 00:45:20,950 --> 00:45:18,800 component to them 1120 00:45:22,390 --> 00:45:20,960 that 1121 00:45:25,910 --> 00:45:22,400 either our relationship to the 1122 00:45:30,150 --> 00:45:25,920 experience or relationship to the idea 1123 00:45:33,190 --> 00:45:31,430 next time 1124 00:45:34,630 --> 00:45:33,200 uh hopefully i'll try to be able to add 1125 00:45:37,589 --> 00:45:34,640 that in 1126 00:45:39,109 --> 00:45:37,599 but i always look at experiences as 1127 00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:39,119 thought and feeling 1128 00:45:42,390 --> 00:45:40,400 but i didn't have room to put the 1129 00:45:45,349 --> 00:45:42,400 feeling in so i just want to make you 1130 00:45:51,510 --> 00:45:48,550 and here's my contact information 1131 00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:51,520 if anybody wants to contact me 1132 00:45:55,510 --> 00:45:53,440 and that phone numbers for bangkok 1133 00:45:57,349 --> 00:45:55,520 thailand 1134 00:45:59,750 --> 00:45:57,359 so if anyone has questions you'd like to 1135 00:46:01,430 --> 00:45:59,760 put in the chat then i will relate them 1136 00:46:04,790 --> 00:46:01,440 to darius now we still have a few 1137 00:46:06,710 --> 00:46:04,800 minutes before um we're going on break 1138 00:46:12,829 --> 00:46:06,720 i'm just checking very quickly yes we 1139 00:46:20,150 --> 00:46:16,710 so are we essentially meat puppets being 1140 00:46:24,069 --> 00:46:22,390 yeah i mean 1141 00:46:25,829 --> 00:46:24,079 it sort of bothered me 1142 00:46:28,790 --> 00:46:25,839 when i first started getting into it but 1143 00:46:29,589 --> 00:46:28,800 the deeper i've gotten into it 1144 00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:29,599 it's 1145 00:46:33,430 --> 00:46:31,440 system integration 1146 00:46:35,430 --> 00:46:33,440 and 1147 00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:35,440 i didn't even get into like masamura 1148 00:46:38,710 --> 00:46:36,640 moto 1149 00:46:40,390 --> 00:46:38,720 water has consciousness 1150 00:46:41,670 --> 00:46:40,400 i mean depends on how far you want to go 1151 00:46:43,670 --> 00:46:41,680 with this 1152 00:46:45,030 --> 00:46:43,680 but it's systems within systems within 1153 00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:45,040 systems 1154 00:46:50,230 --> 00:46:47,280 you know and you can't deny 1155 00:46:52,630 --> 00:46:50,240 nothing that i put out there tonight 1156 00:46:54,870 --> 00:46:52,640 is false you can't deny it you can't 1157 00:46:56,870 --> 00:46:54,880 deny it but putting it in a different 1158 00:47:01,030 --> 00:46:56,880 perspective is what i'm doing 1159 00:47:04,630 --> 00:47:02,550 so there so 1160 00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:04,640 part of this is where you started was um 1161 00:47:08,630 --> 00:47:06,400 talking about 1162 00:47:11,510 --> 00:47:08,640 these microbes or this life coming from 1163 00:47:13,910 --> 00:47:11,520 other planets and seeding 1164 00:47:15,510 --> 00:47:13,920 the earth the possibility and the 1165 00:47:17,510 --> 00:47:15,520 question is well if you do that doesn't 1166 00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:17,520 it become recursive and where did that 1167 00:47:21,030 --> 00:47:19,119 life come from and where did that come 1168 00:47:22,950 --> 00:47:21,040 from and where did that come from well 1169 00:47:25,430 --> 00:47:22,960 see this is where your hubris is coming 1170 00:47:27,510 --> 00:47:25,440 in there's nothing that says talking 1171 00:47:29,349 --> 00:47:27,520 hairless apes at the cognitive facility 1172 00:47:32,230 --> 00:47:29,359 to figure this out 1173 00:47:34,549 --> 00:47:32,240 okay it answers it answers how life 1174 00:47:36,790 --> 00:47:34,559 started here 1175 00:47:38,870 --> 00:47:36,800 but it doesn't answer 1176 00:47:41,190 --> 00:47:38,880 how life originated and there's nothing 1177 00:47:42,230 --> 00:47:41,200 that says that we're able to comprehend 1178 00:47:44,549 --> 00:47:42,240 that 1179 00:47:45,829 --> 00:47:44,559 you know you're making a few jobs and 1180 00:47:47,829 --> 00:47:45,839 i'm not picking on you and i'm not 1181 00:47:49,829 --> 00:47:47,839 trying to be negative but there's a 1182 00:47:56,069 --> 00:47:49,839 there's a couple jumps there 1183 00:47:59,510 --> 00:47:57,510 so i'm telling you the questions that 1184 00:48:01,430 --> 00:47:59,520 i'm getting here so 1185 00:48:04,230 --> 00:48:01,440 all right i'm not taking offense at any 1186 00:48:06,710 --> 00:48:05,190 so 1187 00:48:09,270 --> 00:48:06,720 here's an interesting question what 1188 00:48:12,309 --> 00:48:09,280 might be the ethical implications of 1189 00:48:15,030 --> 00:48:12,319 altering or seeding certain microbes to 1190 00:48:17,750 --> 00:48:15,040 make designer humans 1191 00:48:21,109 --> 00:48:17,760 is it like you eugenics 1192 00:48:23,990 --> 00:48:21,119 that might harm certain populations 1193 00:48:25,589 --> 00:48:24,000 yeah we'll see and that's where i 1194 00:48:27,030 --> 00:48:25,599 i missed out on talking about the 1195 00:48:28,390 --> 00:48:27,040 emotional part 1196 00:48:30,230 --> 00:48:28,400 so if you're going to start talking 1197 00:48:31,430 --> 00:48:30,240 about judgment values now you've got to 1198 00:48:33,349 --> 00:48:31,440 get into 1199 00:48:35,349 --> 00:48:33,359 the emotional aspect and then what's 1200 00:48:37,670 --> 00:48:35,359 right what's wrong 1201 00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:37,680 judgments like that okay 1202 00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:39,760 but as far as 1203 00:48:45,750 --> 00:48:43,680 that idea of manipulating things 1204 00:48:48,950 --> 00:48:45,760 it's already being done 1205 00:48:51,430 --> 00:48:48,960 viruses are manipulating us all the time 1206 00:48:54,549 --> 00:48:51,440 so if we started doing something as a 1207 00:48:56,549 --> 00:48:54,559 human is it really the human doing it 1208 00:49:00,630 --> 00:48:56,559 or is it the microbes 1209 00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:00,640 using the humans as technology to do it 1210 00:49:05,030 --> 00:49:03,520 i don't know but it's a 1211 00:49:11,430 --> 00:49:05,040 interesting 1212 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,950 so the um 1213 00:49:19,750 --> 00:49:17,030 there have been ufo in commerce and 1214 00:49:21,430 --> 00:49:19,760 they've and there's residual that i'm 1215 00:49:22,630 --> 00:49:21,440 i'm reading this is not i don't know 1216 00:49:24,710 --> 00:49:22,640 this but 1217 00:49:25,829 --> 00:49:24,720 there's been residual radia radiation 1218 00:49:28,390 --> 00:49:25,839 markers 1219 00:49:31,109 --> 00:49:28,400 for example on trees and grass new are 1220 00:49:33,349 --> 00:49:31,119 you aware whether any of those scenarios 1221 00:49:36,230 --> 00:49:33,359 demonstrated microbes that were able to 1222 00:49:37,190 --> 00:49:36,240 be detected or tested at those sites 1223 00:49:39,670 --> 00:49:37,200 well 1224 00:49:41,670 --> 00:49:39,680 i'm ex-military and i do have an 1225 00:49:45,270 --> 00:49:41,680 interest in ufos 1226 00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:45,280 and if you if you can find it i read it 1227 00:49:50,230 --> 00:49:47,520 years ago 1228 00:49:52,230 --> 00:49:50,240 there is actually protocols that if an 1229 00:49:55,030 --> 00:49:52,240 alien ship landed 1230 00:49:56,950 --> 00:49:55,040 it has to be sealed off and quarantined 1231 00:49:58,710 --> 00:49:56,960 because of that there's actually 1232 00:50:01,430 --> 00:49:58,720 research about 1233 00:50:03,270 --> 00:50:01,440 if we go to mars and we bring bacteria 1234 00:50:05,430 --> 00:50:03,280 and viruses and things with us what's it 1235 00:50:07,430 --> 00:50:05,440 going to do to mars because they're 1236 00:50:10,150 --> 00:50:07,440 talking about colonizing it 1237 00:50:13,030 --> 00:50:10,160 in the space station because i follow 1238 00:50:15,750 --> 00:50:13,040 this in microbe news daily in the space 1239 00:50:18,390 --> 00:50:15,760 station they're finding globs of 1240 00:50:20,870 --> 00:50:18,400 bacteria behind the panels that have 1241 00:50:24,710 --> 00:50:20,880 been floating there and mutating 1242 00:50:26,549 --> 00:50:24,720 in space so whoever asked that question 1243 00:50:29,670 --> 00:50:26,559 yeah there's 1244 00:50:31,589 --> 00:50:29,680 all kinds of transference that would be 1245 00:50:34,150 --> 00:50:31,599 system integration there 1246 00:50:36,390 --> 00:50:34,160 you know but the 1247 00:50:38,069 --> 00:50:36,400 but with ufos the governments have 1248 00:50:40,549 --> 00:50:38,079 already thought of that and space 1249 00:50:42,790 --> 00:50:40,559 stations dealing with it they even know 1250 00:50:46,069 --> 00:50:42,800 that astronauts and people that are on 1251 00:50:48,230 --> 00:50:46,079 the space station being up in space 1252 00:50:51,030 --> 00:50:48,240 actually starts changing the microbiota 1253 00:50:54,470 --> 00:50:51,040 in the intestines 1254 00:50:57,349 --> 00:50:54,480 so and that's just from being exposed to 1255 00:50:59,589 --> 00:50:57,359 cosmic rays and radiation 1256 00:51:00,870 --> 00:50:59,599 so is that natural 1257 00:51:02,870 --> 00:51:00,880 you know 1258 00:51:04,950 --> 00:51:02,880 who knows 1259 00:51:06,790 --> 00:51:04,960 good questions 1260 00:51:08,870 --> 00:51:06,800 i try to go after things from the i 1261 00:51:11,829 --> 00:51:08,880 don't know mindset 1262 00:51:15,430 --> 00:51:11,839 it keeps it keeps my inquisitive nature 1263 00:51:18,069 --> 00:51:16,549 so uh 1264 00:51:19,750 --> 00:51:18,079 there's uh 1265 00:51:22,309 --> 00:51:19,760 people there's really good uh 1266 00:51:23,589 --> 00:51:22,319 information here about uh how this 1267 00:51:26,150 --> 00:51:23,599 explains 1268 00:51:28,710 --> 00:51:26,160 some connections on the planet 1269 00:51:31,430 --> 00:51:28,720 but there are remote viewers who have 1270 00:51:32,950 --> 00:51:31,440 gotten information off planet 1271 00:51:34,309 --> 00:51:32,960 have been able to get information 1272 00:51:36,950 --> 00:51:34,319 transfer that's not part of the 1273 00:51:38,630 --> 00:51:36,960 planetary system do you have any ideas 1274 00:51:39,670 --> 00:51:38,640 about how something like that might 1275 00:51:41,430 --> 00:51:39,680 happen 1276 00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:41,440 yeah yeah because right now they're 1277 00:51:44,309 --> 00:51:42,880 finding 1278 00:51:45,190 --> 00:51:44,319 viruses 1279 00:51:47,670 --> 00:51:45,200 and 1280 00:51:49,670 --> 00:51:47,680 fungi all the way up to the upper 1281 00:51:50,390 --> 00:51:49,680 atmosphere 1282 00:51:53,030 --> 00:51:50,400 and 1283 00:51:54,309 --> 00:51:53,040 up into space what we would consider 1284 00:51:55,510 --> 00:51:54,319 space 1285 00:51:57,589 --> 00:51:55,520 the 1286 00:51:59,670 --> 00:51:57,599 so 1287 00:52:01,430 --> 00:51:59,680 for non-local information and remote 1288 00:52:04,950 --> 00:52:01,440 viewing i've done 1289 00:52:05,910 --> 00:52:04,960 revo remote viewing protocols 1290 00:52:08,230 --> 00:52:05,920 uh 1291 00:52:11,030 --> 00:52:08,240 with targets and you have just the map 1292 00:52:12,390 --> 00:52:11,040 coordinates and 1293 00:52:14,150 --> 00:52:12,400 done it 1294 00:52:16,309 --> 00:52:14,160 in a controlled way 1295 00:52:18,549 --> 00:52:16,319 um but when you're talking about going 1296 00:52:20,309 --> 00:52:18,559 off planet 1297 00:52:22,150 --> 00:52:20,319 there's fungus everywhere there's 1298 00:52:24,069 --> 00:52:22,160 microbes everywhere they're on the 1299 00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:24,079 meteors they're 1300 00:52:28,470 --> 00:52:25,680 they're finding it in the upper 1301 00:52:29,990 --> 00:52:28,480 atmosphere where they thought nothing 1302 00:52:30,710 --> 00:52:30,000 should be there 1303 00:52:32,950 --> 00:52:30,720 so 1304 00:52:35,990 --> 00:52:32,960 that network 1305 00:52:38,069 --> 00:52:36,000 yes could be i don't know but 1306 00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:38,079 you can't say no just because it's 1307 00:52:41,829 --> 00:52:40,800 another planet 1308 00:52:43,750 --> 00:52:41,839 well 1309 00:52:44,870 --> 00:52:43,760 maybe i'm i was misunderstanding some of 1310 00:52:46,470 --> 00:52:44,880 what you were saying because i 1311 00:52:48,470 --> 00:52:46,480 understood you talked about the network 1312 00:52:51,030 --> 00:52:48,480 on the planet and how things are 1313 00:52:53,349 --> 00:52:51,040 literally connected through this large 1314 00:52:55,030 --> 00:52:53,359 web around the planet and the 1315 00:52:57,990 --> 00:52:55,040 communication can occur through this 1316 00:52:58,950 --> 00:52:58,000 network well it does for many right 1317 00:53:01,270 --> 00:52:58,960 and that 1318 00:53:03,670 --> 00:53:01,280 so are you are you implying that there's 1319 00:53:05,750 --> 00:53:03,680 some sort of connection among microbes 1320 00:53:07,670 --> 00:53:05,760 even when they're separated 1321 00:53:09,030 --> 00:53:07,680 yeah yeah yeah even if there's no 1322 00:53:11,510 --> 00:53:09,040 physical connection 1323 00:53:13,990 --> 00:53:11,520 well no well we even find see science 1324 00:53:17,109 --> 00:53:14,000 looks at that's why i put the slides up 1325 00:53:18,870 --> 00:53:17,119 science looks at the biochemical 1326 00:53:20,950 --> 00:53:18,880 between bacteria 1327 00:53:21,829 --> 00:53:20,960 they don't look for the energetic 1328 00:53:23,910 --> 00:53:21,839 so 1329 00:53:25,109 --> 00:53:23,920 we don't know yet as the bacteria 1330 00:53:27,109 --> 00:53:25,119 putting out 1331 00:53:28,390 --> 00:53:27,119 a radio signal 1332 00:53:29,589 --> 00:53:28,400 okay 1333 00:53:32,150 --> 00:53:29,599 even though 1334 00:53:34,309 --> 00:53:32,160 i can't hear your thoughts john i can 1335 00:53:36,549 --> 00:53:34,319 put an eeg machine 1336 00:53:39,910 --> 00:53:36,559 and i can catch the 1337 00:53:43,030 --> 00:53:39,920 electrical impulses coming out from you 1338 00:53:44,069 --> 00:53:43,040 but i don't hear them um 1339 00:53:46,069 --> 00:53:44,079 so 1340 00:53:48,470 --> 00:53:46,079 why not bacteria communication is 1341 00:53:51,270 --> 00:53:48,480 communication 1342 00:53:54,790 --> 00:53:51,280 it's energetic 1343 00:53:56,230 --> 00:53:54,800 so this so um the the next question is 1344 00:54:01,109 --> 00:53:56,240 really related i think it's kind of the 1345 00:54:02,870 --> 00:54:01,119 same question in different terms but um 1346 00:54:03,990 --> 00:54:02,880 does it is it's restricted to only 1347 00:54:05,670 --> 00:54:04,000 places where 1348 00:54:08,309 --> 00:54:05,680 microbes might be 1349 00:54:09,750 --> 00:54:08,319 like would you consider that psy or 1350 00:54:12,069 --> 00:54:09,760 parapsychological these types of 1351 00:54:15,990 --> 00:54:12,079 phenomena would only occur where there's 1352 00:54:17,670 --> 00:54:16,000 microbes if there's no microbes 1353 00:54:20,069 --> 00:54:17,680 well happen 1354 00:54:21,270 --> 00:54:20,079 see like parapsychology is such a big 1355 00:54:24,549 --> 00:54:21,280 topic 1356 00:54:27,109 --> 00:54:24,559 so this might only account for 1357 00:54:28,549 --> 00:54:27,119 some of the non-local 1358 00:54:31,270 --> 00:54:28,559 information 1359 00:54:34,230 --> 00:54:31,280 but we're just i mean parapsychology 1360 00:54:36,789 --> 00:54:34,240 just started in 1850 1361 00:54:38,309 --> 00:54:36,799 even the idea of investigating 1362 00:54:41,750 --> 00:54:38,319 parapsychology 1363 00:54:45,430 --> 00:54:41,760 is in its infancy you know let's get 1364 00:54:49,430 --> 00:54:47,510 oh sure i mean this and this is what why 1365 00:54:51,990 --> 00:54:49,440 we meet like this to try to bring in the 1366 00:54:54,230 --> 00:54:52,000 latest ideas the latest discoveries and 1367 00:54:56,390 --> 00:54:54,240 figure out how to make them move forward 1368 00:55:00,390 --> 00:54:56,400 yeah but definitely i think i i lay out 1369 00:55:05,670 --> 00:55:03,109 we need to rethink what being a human is 1370 00:55:06,710 --> 00:55:05,680 so if we can rethink what being a human 1371 00:55:08,789 --> 00:55:06,720 is 1372 00:55:10,870 --> 00:55:08,799 then we can rethink about what human 1373 00:55:12,549 --> 00:55:10,880 capabilities are 1374 00:55:15,750 --> 00:55:12,559 and that would include 1375 00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:15,760 the microbial form sensing and that kind 1376 00:55:23,190 --> 00:55:21,589 well it's really interesting it's 1377 00:55:25,030 --> 00:55:23,200 definitely a different perspective than 1378 00:55:27,510 --> 00:55:25,040 what's been presented at many 1379 00:55:29,910 --> 00:55:27,520 many parts of the conference so far uh 1380 00:55:32,309 --> 00:55:29,920 it's nice to see uh that you're trying 1381 00:55:35,349 --> 00:55:32,319 to create a complete overriding 1382 00:55:36,870 --> 00:55:35,359 idea of how this stuff might work 1383 00:55:39,030 --> 00:55:36,880 our next step i guess is trying to 1384 00:55:40,230 --> 00:55:39,040 figure out how to test it right 1385 00:55:42,630 --> 00:55:40,240 yeah well that's what i was saying 1386 00:55:45,270 --> 00:55:42,640 because now that they're doing fecal 1387 00:55:46,710 --> 00:55:45,280 i've been working on this for 20 years 1388 00:55:48,710 --> 00:55:46,720 but now that they're starting to do 1389 00:55:50,470 --> 00:55:48,720 fecal transplants i think that would be 1390 00:55:52,630 --> 00:55:50,480 an avenue 1391 00:55:54,710 --> 00:55:52,640 where it could be that might be 1392 00:55:55,829 --> 00:55:54,720 something that a research institute 1393 00:55:57,670 --> 00:55:55,839 could do 1394 00:55:59,510 --> 00:55:57,680 you know 1395 00:56:00,950 --> 00:55:59,520 well thank you very much as i said there 1396 00:56:03,990 --> 00:56:00,960 are a lot of different questions came in 1397 00:56:05,990 --> 00:56:04,000 on it and obviously you spurred up